37 thoughts on “Macha’s Revenge: Why The Esoteric Community Needs to Change its Tune on Cursing”

  1. I’m so glad Witches are finally talking about reclaiming our power to curse, bind, and hex for ours and others’ safety.

  2. The white-washing of witchcraft…will it ever end? Will fellow practitioners ever cease to constantly feel the need to make us Sabrina in the eyes of everyone else? It’s getting tiresome. Beautiful, powerful article full of harsh truth and genuine emotion!

    1. Thank you so much! <3
      It actually took me forever to write, even though it ended up being a lot shorter than I had initially planned. It's a very emotionally evocative subject for me.

  3. This was written so well, I could almost hear it! Great job, I’m sharing this….and often!

  4. Loved this because not all of us are Glenda the Good Witch. There are people who well deserve to be cursed and punished. If you are capable of making someone pay for an evil they have done then I’m all for it. This is what Witches have done since the dawn of time.

    1. Glenda helped drop a house on the Wicked Witch of the East….. at least that’s how I view it.

    2. Agreed, but if one paid attention Glenda was not a good witch ;D

      1. Don’t give me any Wicked spoilers. I have yet to see that musical. haha

  5. Speak the truth. You’re so right about allot of things.

  6. I’m a Hellenic Wiccan that practices witchcraft. I look at the curse tablets as the source that tells me what kind of curses were cast during ancient times. I don’t follow the damn three fold law, I don’t believe in Karma, and I don’t give a damn what Buckland and his stupid followers think. I didn’t get involved in Wicca to have some old fart tell me what to do and take away the power of the witch or the power that I call upon as a witch. Thank you so much for posting this.

    It needed to be posted.

  7. I took Buckland to task about his comments. It truly pissed me off how he essentially equated all of witchcraft being within the umbrella of Wicca. Plus saying how these individuals couldn’t muster up enough energy to do it. It was a very condescending remarks he posted. The irony is that someone pulled out how he gave a malicious spell in one of his books on candle magick I believe. So I am like you can put all sorts of spells in a book of magick when you need to sell a book but when people who have been wronged use them then they are at fault. Love the way you basically whored out your so called principles to sell a book. Some elders are so pompous it is sad.

    Bodacious Banshee is right. The great majority of spells that have been used to wrong a right have often been by those who were oppressed. Witches in general have been the oppressed in society and the outsiders. They were not going to find justice in the courts when those courts favored the status quo.

  8. Thank you! I feel validated and am grateful for not being alone in my beliefs. Especially being male, I believed it is my responsibility to empower women who seek my help and what a blessing to see them grow so strong in their Goddess. There is therapeutic value when one survivor assists another. We grow together. Many blessings to you. You have a brother here ready and willing to assist as a catalyst for change.

  9. Black and white is a myth, it’s only a power. What we do with it is up to us. Traditionally the community polices itself.

    The declaimer on this kind of magick is that you never really leave the war once you open that box. It can be powerful and cathartic especially for the victims, but running that kind of current has a cost. I have never met someone from this circle of magick that had a easy life or a heart that wasn’t burdened the weight of carrying that flavor of current.

    Even justified use is a heavy load.

  10. thank you. this path is not’ all lavender & light, friendly place BS.’ never has been. this is the real reason christianity is scared of us. b/c we refuse to be vicims any longer.

  11. From FB comment: “(And I really mean pseudo-morality…the “Rede” was not even a real thing, as in Gardner didn’t even make it. It was made up by some Llewellyn author in like the past 20 or 30 years.)”

    The Wiccan Rede was presented in 1964, credited to Doreen Valiente who was a collaborator with Gerald Gardener.

    https://muse.jhu.edu/article/609097

    1. It gets traced back to being in reference to a line in play or poem he or Doreen wrote, but was not actually from his book of shadows, and is not actually a “law” within the tradition. All the BritTrad/Ganderian HPs I know have told me that the rede is not a law within the tradition and was not penned by Gardner. Of course, literally anyone can call themselves a Gardnerian Wiccan these days thanks to the “self-initiation” movement promoted by Llewellyn.

  12. Oh. Em. Gee. I love every single thing ABOUT this. As part of a tradition that practices a balance of Warrior and Healer, and offers no judgment on who is called to which side and at what time, I am so so SOOOO glad to see more and more people in the community stand up and start taking back their own power! <3 Thank you for the terrible and beautiful work that you are doing.

  13. I was initiated into a coven descending from the work of Lady Sheba in 1979, and although I’m now a priest of Obatala in the Lucumí faith (Santeria), I still work as a witch. I’m SO glad you wrote this, and I’m ecstatic over its warm reception. I’ve always said that a witch who cannot hex cannot heal, and when it comes to protecting ourselves and our loved ones, often we need to use both sides of our gifts. Bravo!

  14. Fantastic article, beautifully and powerfully written.

  15. Thank you. Just…. thank you. I was one of the abused, one of the nearly-broken. Then, I was for a long time largely self-taught, and had enough critical thinking skills to see through the BS about rejecting hexing and cursing. It’s a tool. It’s power, and as someone said above, power just is. I have claimed my power, and nothing can take that away from me.

  16. I have long held the view that the “rede” was more about personal responsibility than warning or kharmic “no-nos”. Everything Banshee says here is about taking one’s own initiative to bring about justice… and accepting her role in that action. Nothing she has said here is not said without acknowledging her role in taking just action. Its all about taking one’s own action in hand, in full knowledge of what is being done and why.
    I salute you, as a fellow Morrigan woman, for all your words here, Banshee!

  17. Thank you for saying this it is so true in many aspects

  18. 100% agree. Real life isn’t about fluffy bunny BS, but about taking about your power from those who seek to hurt you. So glad someone has the courage to write about this.

  19. I’ve always been on the fence myself. I always wondered why witches had to be “good” all the time. We worship Nature, and along with the good, there is also the bad. Death, sickness, disaster and birth, health, prosperity. There is both and there is balance. But I’m also believer in Karma/Newton’s 3rd law of motion. For every action, there is an equal yet opposite reaction. Do I need to be Karma’s tool to teach someone a lesson? Is it my lesson to teach? Am I willing to pay the price? But then again, I have luckily never been put in a situation where I felt that it was my only recourse. In any case, it’s not something to be taken lightly and I am glad that there is a dialog happening.

  20. Wow. Deja Vu. I too, was abused by a psychopathic stepfather and was subsequently sexually assaulted and emotionally abused in later years. It seems like a lifetime ago as I have exorcised those demons and made peace with my past. However, I couldn’t agree with you more about our right to curse those who physically and emotionally abuse us and attempt to shame us in the process, as if it is somehow our fault. Also, as a mother and a grandmother, I think it is important that we not only provide a role model for the young ones, but we need to educate, protect and support their efforts to be strong, self-assured women.

  21. I love this article and I’m going to send it to everyone who pulls that “real witches don’t curse” bullshit.

  22. A room is filled with people who’s jobs put them at odds with their religions. In the first seat, there is a Roman Catholic who works in an abortion clinic. In the second seat, there is an Orthodox Jewish Pork Butcher. And in the third seat — a Wiccan who works for a news journal as a fact-checker.

    Seriously — do you seriously accept objectivity from a religion that was made-up by Gerald Gardner so that he could get laid? Yes — there have been many pagan religions in the history of Europe prior to the 19th Century — as well as other esoteric traditions — but Wicca wasn’t one of them.

    1. I’m clearly not Wiccan. And no one here is claiming that Wicca is an ancient religion. So what is your point? Your comment seems to have very little to do with the article above.

  23. Holy shit I love this! I don’t curse myself, but have been wondering what the hell has been happening with all the witches…

    You put so many thoughts into an awesome blog post <3

  24. My heart aches for any and all people of all kinds who are subject to abuse by the hands of those who should care for them but choose to hurt them. I’m on the fence about cursing. I don’t consider myself wiccan or follow anyone’s writings or teachings I just go by what’s in my heart. I was dead set against cursing but this article has opened my mind up a bit on the subject.

  25. I feel that cursing takes more skill to do properly, to lessen or eliminate collateral damage. Because I believe that what you put out comes back to you, cursing someone can be God’s work. Growing up, I heard things like “God helps those who help themselves” and “God works through people, they are his hands.” I see no reason why those ideas wouldn’t apply to any deity. Witches can do this by sending back to the abusers the pain they caused. Why is magical justice more of a moral problem than our governmental justice? Especially when governmental justice fails? Abusers need to be stopped. Murderers need to know how many lives they’ve changed. Just as self-defense can justify a killing, protecting oneself and those who cannot protect themselves justifies a cursing.

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